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Hostile Adjustable Hubs Reviewed by Ballsoutbaja

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Old 03-18-2012, 04:18 PM
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Thumbs up Hostile Adjustable Hubs Reviewed by Ballsoutbaja

I had a chance to get my hands on a set of these just before they were released. I’ve been wanting to get a couple more sets, in various degrees, of his original hubs but trying to set up 2 racing rigs which could possibly need the same degree was meaning I would have had to buy 2 sets of each degree. Wasn’t in my budget, so I was just making do with the stock 5B/5T hubs and thinking about getting a set of the new stock 5SC hubs and converting.

Well, Hostile Racing to the rescue! I present you the Hostile Racing Adjustable Hub! Ahhhh, and the crowd goes wild.




Before I begin, these have been in use for about a month so, they aren’t fresh from the package… But, I wanted to give you guys an honest opinion of what I think about them and I couldn’t do that without running them for a bit.

First things first and that’s getting the bearings into the Hubs. They take the stock wheel hub bearings and you have plenty of choices out there. I would suggest using new bearings though. There are several ways to get the bearings into place but the safest and easiest way is to use the Hostile Racing Bearing Press tool:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c....t.A/id.7777/.f

If you do not have the press tool, which I didn’t think about getting at the same time, you can use the heat/cool method but again, it’s not as safe and easy as the Hostile Press tool. You first need to clean the hubs to make sure there’s no dirt or grime on the hub and pay special attention to the steps where the bearings will go. Any dirt left in there will get under the bearing, causing it not to go straight. What I did was place the hubs in the oven for 20 minutes set at 300 degrees. As the oven was warming up, I placed the bearing into the freezer so once the hubs were done, the bearings were in for a total of 30 minutes. I then used a hot mitt to grab a hub, opened the freezer, grabbed one bearing and dropped it right in. Turned the hub over and dropped in another bearing. They fell right into place with a gentle tap of my mitt and we were good to go. Do the other hub the same, insuring the bearings are fully seated. Something else you can do is to have a bearing already on an Axle so when you take the hub out, you drop the bearing in using the Axle. This insures they are lined up.

Alright, now that you have the bearings in, let’s talk about the 5SC inserts. If you already have a 5SC, you are good to go but if you are like me, I’ve only been running 5Bs and 5Ts, you will have to purchase 2 sets of the stock 5SC hub kits: HPI part number 104781 : http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c....t.A/id.7927/.f


Buying the kits allows you to have a set of stock 5SC hubs as well and so I used those on another rig till I can get my hands on another set of Hostile Adjustable hubs.

Alright, there are a couple things to note:
The stock 5SC hubs have the grub screw from the outside of the hub. IE, you screw them in from the side of the baja. The Hostile Adjustable Hubs have the grub screw inserted from the backside of the hubs. So, you will have to reverse the inserts. So, I’ve taken some pictures to show you what to look for.

In this first picture I laid out the Hostile Adjustable Hubs, Stock 5SC hubs, Hostile Racing Heims and spacers to use the heims.


Here’s a close up of the Hostile Racing Heims and spacers to be used with these hubs. Note: I have had the spacers powder coated black for use on the POW/MIA build: http://www.davesmotors.com/s.nl/c.88...t.A/id.7372/.f



Here’s a look at both hubs as if they were mounted up and you were viewing the baja from the rear. Notice on the Hostile Hubs, you can read Hostile (sorry for the bad pic but trust me, “Hostile” is there) but you cannot see the degree marks on the inserts. On the stock hubs, you can see this degree marks on the inserts. Again, this is exactly how they will be mounted on the Baja as if you were looking from the back.


Here I have just flipped both sets of hubs over so you can see the degree markings on the inserts in the Hostile hubs. Notice, you cannot read hostile but you can read the inserts.


Once you have the inserts in-place, you will need to install the grub screws. Here’s a pic of the Hostile hubs with the grub screw in just to where they touch the inserts. I measured a couple times and once they are fully seated, you will have 2mm of the grub screw sticking out. I suggest using medium strength thread-lock and you can feel once the grub screw hits the insert.


In comparison, here’s the stock 5SC hubs with the grub screw in just enough where it touches the inserts.


Here are a couple shots with the Hostile Heims and spacers installed. Ready to be placed on the rig and enjoy the adjustability of a 5SC hub and durability of a Hostile billet hub!!!!



I’ve been running them for about a month and as suspected, I’ve had 0 issues and absolutely love them! Do you need them?? Um….. Both the racer and basher in me say, “Absolutely!” The Hostile hubs are one less thing I have to worry about causing me to DNF in a race. The Hostile hubs are one less thing I have to worry about that could cause me to end a good day with my Baja Buddies while out bashing.

Thank you Hostile Rob, your Hubs will keep me going and are well worth the investment!!!


Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thanks for reading,

Balls………………….Out.

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Old 03-18-2012, 05:12 PM
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Great review, bro. You covered everything and the pictures are very helpful. I have added the hubs to my favorite hop ups list. I recommend them as one of the first upgrades to get and I'm sure they will last
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:35 PM
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Thanks. Yeah, I was really trying to touch and cover everything. Been lurking on the other threads and talking to Hostile Rob just to make sure I hit on most of the areas where there were questions. Hope it helps some of the guys out.
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excellent review ballsout! i tell you, every review of yours makes me want to buy that part! i will be getting a set of these for sure. one question, removal of bearings? have you had to yet?
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excellent review ballsout! i tell you, every review of yours makes me want to buy that part! i will be getting a set of these for sure. one question, removal of bearings? have you had to yet?
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excellent review ballsout! i tell you, every review of yours makes me want to buy that part! i will be getting a set of these for sure. one question, removal of bearings? have you had to yet?
Thanks for the complement man. I'm just really trying to give honest reviews of some of the coolest guys and thier products. Hostile Rob has been looking after me since I started working on the POW/MIA build so it's my turn to give back a little to those guys that made it happen.

It's funny you ask about removing the bearings. I haven't had to do that yet and I've actually been out working on the POW/MIA build and tearing it down to get some parts ready for powdercoating. Anyway, I just got to taking off the Hostile 2 degree hubs that have been on it for about 3 years and noticed a couple of the bearings need to be replaced. So, I was just about to e-mail Rob and ask the best way to remove the bearings... Crazy timing man!

I'll let you guys know how it goes. I'm sure there's some other guys on the forum that have removed them before, hopefully they'll chime in.

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There it is, team work!! Thanks Fluxn....
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There it is, team work!! Thanks Fluxn....
I figured you would post it so... I managed to remove the outer hub accidentally while inserting my axle cup. I don't think that's good, lol. I might have damaged my bearings since I didn't use the best method to get them in.
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thanks for posting that up, i wasnt sure if it would be a real pain since theres the hot and cold technique for installing. simple enough though.

yeah fluxn maybe contact hostile cause the photo on DDM shows the tapered hole.. strange
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thanks for posting that up, i wasnt sure if it would be a real pain since theres the hot and cold technique for installing. simple enough though.

yeah fluxn maybe contact hostile cause the photo on DDM shows the tapered hole.. strange
This was all taken care of on the other thread for the SC hubs. I just wanted to jump in and update this thread incase any pops in here and doesn't see the other.

Hostile Rob has updated the design of the 5SC hubs. They now come with a botton head screw which does away with the tapered hole. In the end, making the tapered hole was just an extra step that is no longer needed and now this allows Rob to get products done faster.

Also, keep in mind that there's next to 0 stress on the threads so even though the new botton head screw is one thread shy of coming through the other end, it doesn't effect a thing. Just wanted to throw that out there.

Thanks for checking out the thread and again, if you have any questions, we'll get ya squared away.

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Plus, it's been proven that the non-counterbored v2 hubs are stronger.
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Thanks for the review Balls. I've got a set and have given them a couple of serious beatings so far and they've held up great. I'm still running stock heims with no issues either.

I'm a little rougher with the bearing install and will maybe try the hot cold method. I just put the hub on a block of wood and tapped them in with a hammer. Being careful to drive them in evenly. I'm used to driving seals and races on 1:1's so it went smoothly. I had one questionable bearing that I put in and ended up having to remove it. I put the hub on a socket and drove the bearing out using a drift. Came right out.

Great product and I'm glad Flux talked me into going this route when I was on the prowl for hubs.
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Thanks for the review Balls. I've got a set and have given them a couple of serious beatings so far and they've held up great. I'm still running stock heims with no issues either.

I'm a little rougher with the bearing install and will maybe try the hot cold method. I just put the hub on a block of wood and tapped them in with a hammer. Being careful to drive them in evenly. I'm used to driving seals and races on 1:1's so it went smoothly. I had one questionable bearing that I put in and ended up having to remove it. I put the hub on a socket and drove the bearing out using a drift. Came right out.

Great product and I'm glad Flux talked me into going this route when I was on the prowl for hubs.
The bearing install tool costs less than $10, they are the easiest way to install the bearings properly an do not require any heating or cooling.
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Great review balls. the pics are extremely helpful. i'm sold on these hubs.
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Great review balls. the pics are extremely helpful. i'm sold on these hubs.
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Thanks Amigo! Easy to write a review/install thread on something so slick as these hubs...
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do you get any slop with the sc plastic pieces?
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I haven't had baby slop so far. I've beat the crap out of them.

Anyone else????
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do you get any slop with the sc plastic pieces?
If you are asking about the SC toe adjustment inserts, they are a snug fit into our hubs and there is zero play. If you mean the plastic ball ends at the top of the hubs, the stock plastic ends do have play but our economical metal heim ends eliminate the play.

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